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Malassezia ~ Scalp – Trich & Trichillomania(PT2)



Malassezia Q&A's MD


  To read PT1 First: 

Malassezia ~ Scalp – Trich & Trichillomania(PT1)


      Malassezia ~ Scalp – Trich and Trichillomania (PT2)

                            Shampoo Treatments


K1: * hegor 150 * 

K2: * selsun blue Malassezia *

              I have used Selsun Gold but not any of the above.

       Hegor contains Zinc Pyrithione but all depends on percentage

                                  and for ANY Shampoo

                 whether any of the Other Ingredients Included

                           are Yeast Feeders, such as

           OILS and Ethyl-Methyl-Acetyl Alcohol types etc.


      Q1: * is there such thing as just 2% zinc pyrithione drops *

         A quick Google Search did not produce any results

         but here is my New Zinc Pyrithione 2% Shampoo.


     (Australian Product)



     Zinc yes, but loaded with other ingredients counteracting purpose

         much like All Other Anti-dandruff Shampoos I have tried.


                                Does it work?…

       I have used it for over 2 months Daily and Consistently

    I leave it on the scalp for near a full hour while having a Bath.

       I am, regrettably, pretty close to Busting another Myth…

  Does it work?

        Not exactly! … perhaps a little … and only temporarily.                                            

    It appears not affecting anything residing deep in the hair follicles

    and only lightly or temporarily what is on the surface on scalp/hair.

              The other Ingredients make it a great Re-locator. (*1)

            Within 15 minutes after applying it and while still on

         i can feel distinct ‘sand’ movement away from the scalp

     into the ears, eyelids and face … most likely down to the neck.                                    

Then within an hour or two after rinsing and drying, a stampede back

which only appears to stop -temporarily- after applying Acidophilus mix.

Acidophilus treatment takes several weeks and systematic treatment

               to complete the job of clearing the scalp

 and then needs Regular maintenance to keep it Malassezia Free.                                   

The Only Shampoo i have found seemingly partly affecting spores

      and resulting in several hours and up to 1-2 days all quiet

-tested repeatedly in the past and only occasionally and briefly now-

         is a ‘Lice & Eggs’ treating one containing Butoxide 

but it gets absorbed though the scalp and hits me Badly in other areas

           side effects manifesting as early as the next day

   and lasting for 4-5 days or more until cleared out of my system (*3)

                                          P- MDjpg

                   And like Everything else Applied Externally

                            -whether Chemical or Natural-

                      the Results are Always only Temporary

                     because as already mentioned above:


                It Depends on the Individual’s state of Immunity

                        which consequently determines

                whether affliction is a temporary brief attack

                    or develops into a Chronic condition.  



The Difference between perpetually using

Chemical Loaded Shampoos trying to control it

instead of using Natural Methods / Ingredients

                        is that

                 The First Option

  May have Detrimental Cumulative Effects *

   1) On Detoxifying Organs such as Liver and Kidneys

  and consequently other Dependent on them Functions, etc

                                   as well as 

   2) On Other Present Scalp Friendly Flora

       The same would apply to any other

  Topical Chemical Substances used Long term**


              While the Second, Natural Option

1) Will Enhance Friendly Flora – Creating Competition

  and possibly Increase Resistance, and

2) Fortify the Immune System without causing any harm 


With these Considerations in mind after this Shampoo trial period

and only One Natural effective harmless Solution available

but still temporary and with the threat of Malassezia Re-location

in an area that could cause me more trouble than on my Scalp

           and Provided i can keep it under Control

     ie, Not have Sticky Matted Hair or Falling Off Fast

                 i have started a turn around to

* Tapering Shampoo Strength – Diluting with ‘Fun Time’ Baby Bath

* Reducing amount used per session by half

* Shortening the Duration of Scalp exposure to only 10-15 minutes

* Applying Acidophilus Mix after Rinsing and Drying

or immediately as soon as when Sticky Malassezia movement is felt

as a light Spider or Insect crawl in hair or Itchy Burning forming Bump.

     This way minimise exposure to -lets face it- Useless harmful chemicals

       and Protecting and Fortifying Friendly Helpers.

(The above applies for all shampoo types/brands i have identified

 exacerbating current condition and/or causing additional problems)


              *  Ingredients Causing Re-location  

(*1) Since it is a living  mobile creature, if not killed on impact

   and its environment is disturbed – like man and volcano eruption-

   it naturally moves away -temporarily- to a safer place.

   Where it chooses to go depends on the Individual’s

                 skin condition and vulnerability.

    In some people may settle on Eyelashes, in other on the Face

    in other on the Nek, Upper Torso – Chest, Back, Arms etc

                  or worse in the Privates areas…

    This does not guarantee that Newbies will not try to re-invade

     the Scalp area -or Any other ‘Favourite’ – treated area

                   after treatment effect has passed

(Man goes back to his volcanic land and rebuilds when all settled)


* Chemicals building cumulative effect through Skin absorption

*  Skin absorption can be negligent provided Shampoos

    are used for a few minutes as in Normal cases of Use

     but this would hardly produce any result

      for Malassezia Pityrosporum fighting purposes.


** Some may argue whether any Ingredients Could be Absorbed

      by the Skin and cause gradual or eventual harm, etc.

      The question is always : Is it worth any Risk?

     I know through first hand experience, that it Can and Does!       

  (*3) a) Gradually building after certain Repeated Applications:

     I will Not name Brands as such but Ingredients contained

                                          such as

  * Ketoconazole

  * Strong Methyl /Acetyl/ Alcohol types of ingredients

    – With or without Zinc Pyrithione –

  * As well as Some OIL containing ones

    (used way back during heavy experimenting ‘anything goes’ times)

  * Lice treating ones – as mentioned above 

 b) As well as in a One Off -unforgettable- Extremely Intense Impact

     -when used out of desperation in a foolish, unwise way 

     as in   Malassezia: Lethal Strategies of the Past (2)

                                 * * *

  Relevant Links Regarding Hair and Scalp Treatments:

                  * Malassezia Blog *

   “Malassezia: Hair and Scalp Treatment” 


                 * Malassezia Daily *

          Malassezia and This or That or … Other

Morgellons&Demodex Symptoms-Malassezia Solutions

 Malassezia: What The Photos Reveal – (PT 2)

 Malassezia: What The Photos Reveal – (PT 3)


           Trichillomania Article Link 

       A Theory of Trichotillomania 

                    New site 

      * Malassezia Health Quest *



                         *  Malassezia Blogs  *

                                       Malassezia Blog WP

                            Deals with history of Treatments 

                               Outcomes and Experiences 

                             from Beginning to Recent times  

                                  –>  * Malassezia Blog *  


                                           Malassezia Daily WP.

                    Confirming and/or Updating past Topics 


                       Recent Developments and Progress

                             New Discoveries and Photos 


                  Addressing Readers’ Questions / Keywords

              Please Note:

                       I am NOT Qualified  To Make a Diagnosis

                             Nor Provide Personal Advice

                                All References are Based

                   On my Own Unfolding Personal Experiences

                                 –>  * Malassezia Daily *


Malassezia Daily ~ LIST OF ENTRIES 1–150


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Malassezia and the Coconut Shampoo Calamity(2)



 Malassezia Maintenance


   * Malassezia ~ Product Clarification and Warning *


*Malassezia and the Coconut Shampoo Calamity (2) *
Malassezia Coconut Calamity 4 


  Below the Two Shampoo Containers Side by Side

 My Regular on the Left – The New one on the Right

Minor Design Changes are easily observed

     such as an Improved Lighter Pump…

Malassezia and Shampoo1

and a Red droplet? of supposedly …silky hair???


    But then looking closer i noticed something

                            that could Possibly be an indicator

                             of a more Significant Change 

    in the Contents of the Shampoo ….

Malassezia and Shampoo 2

 Contains Zinc Pyrithione 1% w/w

   Was ‘Zinc P’ Dropped or Reduced???

Would they have left out of Prominent display

                          Such an Important Ingredient

                        for an aesthetic look of the Bottle?…


Then i Checked the List of Ingredients on Both Containers

                                to see how they Compared 


   Top: The Old one – Bottom: The New one

Malassezia and Sampoo Ingredients


      Exactly same Number and Name of Ingredients

but Volume / Weight / Percentage of Each is Not listed

to afford comparison / confirmation of Changes – IF any…


Perhaps as long as all Ingredients are listed

there is no requirement listing percentages

        and /or changes in formula.


A Lot of ‘Lethal’ ingredients in the List of Contents

       – much like most other Shampoos –

    which i elected not to research to avoid the horror

  that comes with the knowledge of the detail

             except for two –below– that might be related

                        to the indicators of Change.


 –  Strong, ‘Thick’ Coconut (Oily) Fragrance

–  Oily ‘Heavy’ Feel of Bath Water

–  New Yeast Proliferation on every inch of my Scalp/Body

    (similar to my Previous OIL Experience) *


Possible Related Ingredients:


  Malassezia and COCAMIDE

                All Shampoos i have checked so far contain

    – often more than one Coconut Fatty acids in some Form and Name –

so the difference would be in the Proportionate weight / volume etc

    to the other ingredients especially the number and quantity

           of other type of Oils and of total shampoo weight.



Is it … ‘The’…  Coconut one that drove me Crazy???


In a Guessing Game of Possibilities 

i can see a number of Potential Combinations

 of ‘Increased / Decreased / Unchanged’ ingredients.


    And again, in a Guessing Game of Possibilities

going by the Indications and Effects on my Scalp and Body

i would guess there is a Definite Coconut Related Change

whether as ‘Fragrance’ or ‘Cocamide MEA’ or Other Type

and Possibly – also guessing – a Reduction in Zinc potency

   indicated by the Omission of  ZP 1% w/w on the New Container

              rather than on result and effects noticed

        much too complicated and even harder to verify

             no matter if or how obvious they might be.


Now because the Strong Smell was the Only established indication

        of change, while the other two could have a different cause

and because i never like jumping into quick conclusions and risk falsity

             i decided to Continue using it for a Few More Days

              and watch for results like a hawk from every angle

making sure it had been trialled for at least a full week as a minimum

   or until the detrimental effect got too strong and too painful levels

          and having to face longer fight and distress in my hands.

When i made sure it was getting worse and was too obvious

              that there was no other lead to any other source 

         i simply gave it up.


              I could have phoned the company to find out … or not…

but i prefer to go by the results on my Body that can detect the minutest

offences much like the Princess and the Pea under the 8th mattress!…


    Even if there was no significant change and only fragrance added

       i simply and regrettably cannot stand the overpowering smell

       unless there were any strong indications against Malassezia 

                    rather than as Negative  as are standing 

                       i prefer to avoid any unnecessary risk

                                        and in the end

                  Zinc Pyrithione alone cannot help much

    especially drowned among other Opposing or Neutralising elements

     such as Cocoa Fats, Fragrant Oils, Methyl /Acetyl Alcohols etc

                    already present as it is in most shampoos.


        The reason i have written all this in such detail is that

        i have been mentioning this particular H&S Shampoo

                  as Effective and one of my Daily helping tools

         and this may have prompted some people to try it 

           or come to rely on it as a partial solution to their problem

                      so i feel i have an obligation to report

  in order that each person can be aware of possible changes

        watch out for any effect on their particular problem

       IF of course the Formula on their side of Planet

              has happened to have Changed as well.


            For myself i decided reluctantly to simply Jump Ship

    and have gone back to an old harmless Baby Body Wash i used

      before i replaced it with the H&S – and i am now on the lookout

          for a new Shampoo while using sparingly the Old H&S

            which i pinched and exchanged with my husband

        whose Body is better equipped in fighting of Malassezia.


             Since i dropped it and went back to the Old one

                             Peace has been restored

                     All is Clear and Near Normal again!


Incidentally, while preparing this entry i have been surrounded all day

by the same Coconut cloud and wandering where is it coming from

then remembered that while i was transferring both Old and New

Containers form our Bathrooms in order to take the above Photos,

i was cradling them with my arm and leaning them onto my Chest

so i would not drop them, and the Coconut cloud been emanating from

the Front of my Jumper and Sleeve where the New One was leaning on…


The Baby Wash i Used before i replaced it with the H&S Shampoo

      Kids Body Wash M

Kids Body Wash T

It too contains Cocamide DEA and some other evil things

but i know not of a better alternative at this stage 😦 😦 


I have been using it in the Bath on its own and for Scalp and Hair

as 1/2 and 1/2 with the remaining Old H&S while it lasts

              – and so far i have had No problems.

All back to Normal and Clear and almost as quiet as before 

   It is sold at Woolworth’s and Cole’s Supermarkets

     and some Chemists … here in the “Down Under”


     In the mean time i am on the search for a suitable shampoo

              with the Lowest possible Oil Content

                        and hopefully Problem Free

         Otherwise i will use the Baby Wash for All areas


                           * Previous OIL Experience * 

     (Link will open New Browser to  *Malassezia Blog* )


Recommended  Reading Entries in Order of Posting  

                *  MALASSEZIA BLOGS  *

Malassezia Blog WP

                   Malassezia Blog *   

Photos – History of Treatments and Results

Malassezia Daily WP.

                   Malassezia Daily *

New Photos – New Discoveries
Treatments and Results


                Malassezia Health Quest *

Malassezia Issues – Related Topics
Malassezia and Medical Research
Health and Immunity – Nutrition  Diet 




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Malassezia and the Coconut Shampoo Calamity (1)



Malassezia Maintenance


  * Malassezia ~ Product Clarification and Warning *


*Malassezia and the Coconut Shampoo Calamity (1) *
Malassezia Coconut Calamity 1



For Several Months now and throughout several Entries

   i have mentioned i had been Lucky to have found

Two Good Probiotic Formulas and One Good Shampoo

    which i have been Using and Relied upon heavily 

      as part of my Daily Routine and Maintenance

– together with the application of Seawater and YAM-

   in keeping a practically Sore and Lesion Free Body

 and tolerably Low Levels of Malassezia Presence and Activity


            I only recently deviated slightly – or so i thought 

                    seeking an even greater improvement

                          using a Different Probiotic 

                    and Same Brand Variation Shampoo

                 Both of Stronger dosages in the Ingredients

                supposed to help produce these good results.


               Alas, it was a Highly Regrettable move

                 for which i paid a memorable price

                        as Detailed in the Entry:

       “Malassezia Treatment-Relocation- Attack


                      After the Unexpected Nasty Surprise

              i Discontinued Both and posted in a following Entry

                    a Possible Probiotic Formula Ingredient

             that may have contributed to the sudden onslaught

                in conjunction with the variation of  Shampoo.

When i started to recover i Re-tested the suspected Shampoo again

        in order to make absolutely sure it was part of the problem

                  and not just caused by the Probiotic itself 

but what followed was the Return of the same Negative indications


                   Right after finally sorting out the causes

                   i am now faced with the New Challenge

   this time from my Regular and up until now Reliable Shampoo

      ‘Head and Shoulders’ – Smooth and Silky-Zinc Pyrithione!


             As i have mentioned before in several entries

         i used it not only as Shampoo for the Head / Hair 

                  but in the Bath and as Hand wash 

        and practically as a replacement of soap generally…


I had just recovered from the latest result of the initial Malassezia attack

      and back in good ground having cleared lesions and sores

                  and reached Lower levels of threat

       though still some signs of ‘Orange’ production 

                        evidenced on my clothes.


Then my Man brought home a slightly different container of H&S Shampoo

announcing a Change of the Pump and a Noticeable jump in Price.

       I Liked the new Pump and did not care about the Price

since it was producing good results allowing me some better life

                    so i eventually forgot all about it.


             I could not exactly recall which day i changed

              from the Old H&S shampoo to the New one 

                – i had no Reason to mark it …Had I???

                    except that after a couple of days 

i started to notice a series of weird and bothersome events:                                                       

1) Something in the house wafted Strong Coconut Fragrance

       all around me, whatever part of the house i went

                       all throughout the day.

     I thought perhaps coming form the people downstairs

     deodorising their carpets or having their luxurious Coconuty Shower

     and it followed me like a Perfumed Puff Cloud around the house

     even in the evenings when we closed most windows and doors, etc.


 2) Yeast started to Spring from Practically Every Inch of my Body

     as if it was a Baking Loaf of Bread on the Rise!…

     and most of all,  my Scalp felt like a Maniacal Nursery

                     of Newly ‘hutched’ Yeast!…

    This caught my serious attention and put me on Alert!!

                        There was No Doubt

           Something was Wrong Somewhere

                        but what and where

        since there had been no change i could think of

                          – or was there…?


 3) The Foam in the Bathtub seemed to disappear quickly

     water turning ‘heavier’ much greasier looking than usual

            despite same amount of Shampoo Squirts.


          Then an accidental but Fortunate minor Spill

                      of the New Shampoo Pump 

   was the lucky incident and the clue that had evaded me

        and helped reveal the cause of the above nuisances

                   especially the Coconuty Smell:


  After i had wiped the Spill with my Finger, i did not wash it

   leaving any Shampoo residue on it as a Yeast deterrent.

Then within a few minutes i noticed that whenever my hand

came close to my face the Coconut smell seemed to intensify…

       …or rather … come straight from my FINGER!…

         So Overwhelmingly Strong for both my liking

               as well as my Poor Sensitive Lungs

that even the Coconuts themselves Rolled their eyes in disbelief…

   Malassezia Coconut Calamity 2 

My Old Regular Shampoo had a rather delicate Flowery fragrance

that lasted a few minutes while handling it but never intrusive 

when used to wash my hands etc – while the steam in the bath

         seems to have a blocking or obscuring effect

on both the delicate as well as the strong fragrance of the New one

        making it harder to detect and place it earlier.


        So, i deliberately sniffed the coated Finger repeatedly

             to make sure this was definitely the source

              that carried the same constant fragrance

which had been following me for the past few days.

           There was absolutely NO doubt that this was IT!…

           and the wafting Coconutty Smell all around me

      had been coming from my very Own Head and Body!


     I Cannot describe how Dismayed and Frustrated i was…


   Malassezia Coconut Calamity 3


I proceeded immediately to Check and Compare the List of Ingredients

    in both Old  and New Shampoo Containers for any listed changes.

 ( Full Presentation in Following Entry )



Recommended  Reading Entries in Order of Posting  

                *  MALASSEZIA BLOGS  *

Malassezia Blog WP

                   Malassezia Blog *   

Photos – History of Treatments and Results

Malassezia Daily WP.

                   Malassezia Daily *

New Photos – New Discoveries
Treatments and Results


                Malassezia Health Quest *

Malassezia Issues – Related Topics
Malassezia and Medical Research
Health and Immunity – Nutrition  Diet 





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Malassezia Funny Keywords with Serious Content-QA





Malassezia Humour


The Funny Side 

     K1:  * i left zinc pyrithione on my genitles overnight *


Malassezia on genitals

To be honest i found hard to stifle a few giggles with this one

but i must admit i have done the same thing myself


I would really love to hear more about this story…


*K2:  * scalp sores picking sea breeze *


Malasseia on scalp

Lol! and ROFL!…


I have a very fertile vivid childish imagination for all things

           but his one has found me wanting!…

   What is the Reader saying?  … what were they after?

                   Just cannot come anywhere near guessing

                            so i shall leave this one alone


*K3:  * menstruation Malassezia *


Malassezia and menstruation

                   Due to its Prolific Reproductive abilities and Name

           i have always thought of Malassezia as feminine in nature

                             but never considered possible 

that it could … menstruate, lol!

   (Ok, maybe this is not very funny… )


   The Serious Side


*K1:  * i left zinc pyrithione on my genitles overnight *


I assume the Reader refers to (Zinc Pyrithione)Shampoo.


As i mentioned above i have done the same thing myself

on both the Private area as well as on the Scalp

Successful treatment but came with a very High Price.

Leaving the Shampoo overnight on either of these areas

although it produced some result Locally(!)

a) it did Not solve the Malassezia Problem except temporarily

b) it was absorbed by the skin causing very negative side effects

that lasted – at least in my case – way longer after the application 

and many more new repeated assaults by Malassezia.


I have modified the method since an only applying and leaving on 

for just 2 hours at a time –far in between – usually before Bath time. 

Helpful enough while considerably minimising side effects.


Once a shock result is achieved then applying Acidophilus Capsules

mixed with a little water is a more natural totally harmless treatment 

that can be applied and left on overnight and if done consistently

                       it clears the Scalp brilliantly. 

As for the privates area the same principle applies except that 

in that area it is practically a daily battle keeping Malassezia away.


Acidophilus capsules alone can clear the Scalp without the aid

of added PZ shampoo treatment – just the regular use

but it takes much longer to achieve the final result

and then needs to be maintained regularly

much like any other treatment Natural or Chemical. 


It is a lot harder though to keep Malassezia away from the genital area

 being the thoroughfare of Its several times daily ‘In and Out’ Traffic.


Most people do not feel that traffic and have no awareness of it 

so they only discover suddenly what seems to be out of the blue 

the Itchy Burning Bumps, Paper Cut Scratch lines and open Lesions


And this is where the Acidophilus Capsules or Seawater *

prove helpful in Deterring Malassezia Settling in the area

                     and producing those painful results.

(*and i mean Seawater – Not sea Salt + water – Nor Salt + water!)


*K3:  * menstruation Malassezia *


Malassezia and menstruation

    Joke aside, there is a real and serious connection

between Malassezia and Blood and quite a valid concern.


Malassezia is attracted to open wounds and inflammation

due to easier accessibility of blood in those areas.

It appears it needs  Blood to reproduce as this takes place

 towards the what i have observed as the third part of its cycle

 i.e maturity –when ready to reproduce – digging into the flesh 

drawing Blood and creating Itchy Painful Lesions.


I cannot offer the insights of personal experience on this occasion 

because i have not been through a menstruation cycle 

or any effect Malassezia may have during that time 

due to early onset of menopause caused by serious Lung illness.


  It is not hard though to imagine how attractive and inviting 

 a Bleeding Uterine Wall may become to Malassezia. 

Yet I have a suspicion that there may be a ‘Nature’ s Paradox’ here 

where  more Malassezia is cleared Out rather than Settling In… 

It is rather hard to verify for sure, just a gut feeling of mine 

and a logical deduction –on the part of Nature’s wisdom – lol!

because if that were the case then every woman -month-in – month-out

could end up with a tremendous overtake and upset of Balance 

-despite a normal immune system- that could seriously threaten  

human fertility etc and i m sure Mother Nature would never intend it so… 


        I imagine though that during the days building to it 

                     Malassezia may be more likely

             to cause increased concentration in the area 

with possibly increased vaginal Itching, Pain and Cramps 

due to attempts of attaching itself on the walls to start digging in 

           –until of course the … avalanche washes it out…


Scenario described above just a speculation on my part. 

I wonder if during the building up to the menstruation time 

Acidophilus could prove as Relieving and Deterring as it normally is.


      If I were personally in such situation i would try it out

as there is no harm and the more Acidophilus present in that area,

         the less likely of competing presence of any Yeasts

           or other Nasties of all kinds including Malassezia.


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